I know i'm not a wiz in php, but in his case, couldn't you just use a text file or file sistem say on the server, organize it a little and work with string functions to get all the info for the forum on these files. It will almost be like a database, but it'll be written in the text files. I mean DB is the # 1-9 choice, but if a person can't get a db to use, could you do it using the text files? I know that it will slow the forum way down, but could that be an option for a guy in EnViZiBlE's case? I'm just wondering if that's possible at least hypothetically...